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So even if we pay the 4 mill and ship him off he takes the whole cap hit with him? Well here's hoping Melnyk is willing to open his wallet to make a deal happen. Just no Penner. Please god no Penner.
damn gert you really hate penner dontcha
I don't understand how Murray is still running this team. It's been completely destroyed with him at the helm. It's beyond reason!
Dude, living in saskatoon i watched his sorry ass all last season. You think Heatley's complacent? That guy puts Heatley to shame.
agreed he is the last player i want other than sundin
You guys in Ottawa need to call the Team 1200 tomorrow and shoot down anything to do with Penner let the guys on theradio know this was a stupid asinine deal, Senators management needs to know they dodged a bullet with Penner for3 more years. We would have hated this deadwood so freaking much.
gert great last post about Penner that was great.
I almost feel betrayed as a sens fan that Murray would even consider a deal like that. Talk about being taken to the cleaners and back.
Murray has been talking to Milbury I've got to believe.
sportsnet is reporting the trade is on hold
wait guys it may not be done yet sportsnet is reporting that heatley didint say no he said he will sleep on it
this whole saga needs to be put to rest soon, the agents are wrecking this game
there is also a package from ny wich is dubinsky,calahan,del zotto and a swetener
Ah crap just after I let out a sigh of relief, got to believe if the Sens fans are vocal enough tomorrow maybe Melnyk will not letMurray take on that crappy Penner just take Cogliano and Smid and USE THE DAMN CAP ROOM instead of Penner.
i would take souray rather than smid and penner
Dubinsky and Callahan are both RFA's according to Hockeybuzz that would be better if they don't want to sign, eff em anduse the cap space and pick your player or players instead of what Edmonton or NY want to pawn off on Milbury err I meanMurray.
Souray could at least lead the PP, instead of Penner being a healthy scratch every nite.
The Ottawa Sun says Murray may be interested in Cammelleri. If he can just get Cogliano and Smid he saves 6 Million on the cap and he can sign Cammelleri and forget about that worthless Penner, whatever he does don't take back Penner and use themoney for someone like Havlat or Hossa even, well maybe not those jinxed guys but for sure not Penner.
yeah thats a good way to go but unfortunatly it won't happen
Why would Cammelleri come to this crap factory?
If I understand some of you well is, trade Heatley to somewhere in exchange for just the capspace... Come on, we fans can't fire the GM, the only one who can fire Murray is Melnyk and he would have never approved of such deal.
I think Murray must be pretty desperate by now (witnessing the near deal), he has to get something back for Heatley, but what. Heatley coming back... I don't think it's gonna happen. Although I wanted to and after repeated pinching myself (I thought all the Heatley-wanting-to-be-traded-stuff was just a bad dream) I'm almost sure he's rather playing in the KHL than in Ottawa right now.
What do we want back from the Rangers? The RFA package? Are they any good? I've taken a look at their roster and what I would want back is maybe: Mark Staal (the one we should have had all along), and then some 3 or 4 players, prospects, picks or whatever. I don't like any of the roster. The King is not going to be dealt for sure.
Staal for Heatly? Dude, put the pipe down. Too early to be smoking.
whatever happens today, don't be too quick to hang murray. we don't know what he's up against and i bet it's a reeeeal hard place. he may have few to no options and if you don't like the deal, it may well be the only one he had.
Exactly Russell. Murray cannot win. Heatley is not in demand across the league. He may be a fifty goal scorer, but he is very one-dimensional. (Hint: Stick in air). Add to that his contract and the perception now that he is a problem in the locker room or a difficult personality and no team is going to give a quality star up to get him.
We are left with a crappy choice. Either get a good player (Cogliano) and take another awful contract (Penner) or take a package of very average players (the Rangers package). I think Sens fans have had their expectations too high.
I think Ottawa would be better with the Rangers package (even though I do NOT want Heatley on the Rangers). Those kids might be average talent, but they're hard workers. They would respond better to Clouston and could spark the more "talented" Sens.
Penner is a buy-out waiting to happen.