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Sens Underground Forums > Are We Going To Have A Lockout???

How's this for piling on: Redden is locked out of playing in the AHL.

Wade Redden dragged into the lockout

It seems that the Rangers have to send him down every year, and they didn't this year so he is technically an NHL player so he's not playing in the AHL and he's not collecting his $5M pay for this season.

September 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM | Registered CommenterKardinal

Definitely adding insult to injury. Does this mean Yashin isn't being paid neither?

September 27, 2012 at 8:22 PM | Registered CommenterSunburned Senior

there will always be bacon.

so says the Pigman.

September 27, 2012 at 11:50 PM | Registered CommenterResigned Russell

Good news for Russell:

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/there-will-be-no-bacon-shortage.html

September 28, 2012 at 10:26 PM | Registered CommenterSunburned Senior

anyone read Joffrey Lupul's article?

September 29, 2012 at 10:42 PM | Registered Commentermethottomymadness

Does this mean Yashin isn't being paid neither?

From what I've learned, buyouts are paid during the lockout. Here's a list of the buyouts being paid this season (several of them go beyond this season, or change in value from year to year, but this is for 2012-2013):

Boston: Patrick Eaves, $258k (1 way deal with Red Wings)
Carolina: Derek Joslin, $125k (signed with Canucks on 2 way deal)
Columbus: Mike Commodore, $1.21M (UFA)
Dallas: Eric Goddard, $258K (UFA)
Edmonton: Sheldon Souray, $1.5M (1 way deal with Ducks)
Florida: Matt Bradley, $283k (UFA)
Minnesota: Cam Barker, $542k (UFA after year in Oilers)
Minnesota: Mark Parrish, $928k (UFA)
Nashville: Brett Lebda, $467k (UFA, played in Blue Jackets last season)
Nashville: J.P. Dumont, $1.33M (UFA, played in Swiss league last season)
New Jersey: Eric Boulton, $163k (1 way deal with Islanders)
New Jersey: Colin White, $1M (UFA, after year in Sharks)
New Jersey: Trent Hunter, $667k (UFA, after 2 way year for Kings)
NYI: Alexi Yashin, $2.8M (for another two seasons after this one!)
NYR: Chris Drury $1.7M (inactive)
Ottawa: Bobby Butler, $50k (signed 2 way with Devils; buyout is $200k next season)
Philadelphia: Oskars Bartulis, $100k (gone to KHL)
Tampa Bay: Vinny Prospal, $1.17M (signed with Columbus)
Toronto: Darcy Tucker, $1M (inactive; buyout continues in next season as well)
Toronto: Colby Armstrong, $1M (signed with Canadiens; buyout is same amount for two seasons)

Washington: Tyler Sloan, $233k (signed with Texas of AHL)

September 30, 2012 at 6:27 PM | Registered CommenterKardinal

Sens players show off new uniforms:
http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/10/01/ottawa-senators-players-and-local-pros-remain-on-ice-as-lockout-continues

October 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM | Registered CommenterSunburned Senior

They may take our hockey, but they'll never take our bacon!

October 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM | Registered CommenterSpezzial Delivery
October 3, 2012 at 7:09 PM | Registered CommenterKardinal

What the heck. They've legislated everybody else back to work.

October 3, 2012 at 7:39 PM | Registered CommenterSunburned Senior

What the heck. They've legislated everybody else back to work.


spoken like a true, bitter ex-civil servant.

October 3, 2012 at 9:20 PM | Registered CommenterResigned Russell

You mean ex bitter civil servant.

October 4, 2012 at 12:39 AM | Registered CommenterSunburned Senior

A part of me hoped that was really true =/

October 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM | Registered CommenterSpezzial Delivery

I knew there was a reason I wasn't a Vancouver fan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnvKzA-6WY

October 4, 2012 at 10:06 AM | Registered CommenterSpezzial Delivery

Why should these guys get their asses in gear and end this lockout?

cause Sharktopus says so!

October 5, 2012 at 9:20 PM | Registered CommenterResigned Russell

Shut the Puck Up!

For those who may not of seen this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcgpghm2tGw

October 9, 2012 at 5:13 PM | Registered CommenterSunburned Senior

Alfie speaks his mind on the lockout situation

Hey Buttman: the Golden Gawd has spoken. Listen to his wisdom.

October 10, 2012 at 8:40 PM | Registered CommenterKardinal

Leaked: the latest spin doctor campaign to come from the NHL, including the new buzzphrase "shared sacrifice".

Inside A Secret NHL Focus Group: How A Top GOP Strategist Is Helping Hockey Owners Craft Their Lockout Propaganda

October 15, 2012 at 6:22 PM | Registered CommenterKardinal

The NHL makes a bold move with a 50/50 of HRR offer the the NHLPA.

TSN also reports...

According to a source, the only one that remained in Tuesday's proposal was a maximum contract length of five years. The new league offer also called for unrestricted free agency to come into effect at age 28 or after eight years of service - one year later than the last CBA - and kept entry-level deals at three years.

This deal is apparently contingent on playing a full 82 game season starting on Nov 2nd.

That's only a little over two week away, which is pretty much makes this a take it or leave it offer from the NHL with little or no time to negotiate. I think they may be willing to accept 50/50, but 5 year max terms and UFA one year later, not so much.

If the NHLPA rejects this or take their time to respond, I think they lose fan support and the NHL gains support, for whatever that's worth.

October 16, 2012 at 6:08 PM | Registered CommenterHomer

I don't know about you guys, but I think this offer sounds fair for both parties. Something else I heard is that ahl contracts will also count against the cap so this way, teams can't bury their mistakes, ie Redden

October 16, 2012 at 9:07 PM | Registered CommenterPost Draft Pan

and, as we speak, somewhere in a Jersey swamp, a toad named Lou is already figuring out ways to circumvent this potential deal.

October 16, 2012 at 9:26 PM | Registered CommenterResigned Russell

I don't think they're going to get a better offer than 50/50 on the revenue sharing, dunno about the rest. It sounds like a good deal, but I don't want to get false hope.

October 17, 2012 at 10:05 AM | Registered CommenterSpezzial Delivery

Don Fehr doesn't seem to impressed with the NHL's proposal

From the article...

- "Simply put, the owners' new proposal, while not quite as Draconian as their previous proposals, still represents enormous reductions in player salaries and individual contracting rights. As you will see, at the 5 per cent industry growth rate the owners predict, the salary reduction over six years exceeds $1.6 billion. What do the owners offer in return?"

Almost sounds like. It's not a big steaming pile of crap as their previous proposals, but it's still crap.

- Given the enormous concessions players made in the last round, plus 7 years of record revenue reaching $3.3 billion last season, there is no reason for a reduction in the amount the players receive.

Not that it matters, but in the court of public opinion a 50/50 split seems fair. If players say that they would rather have 0, than 1/2 of $3.3B, then screw them. Players are often quoted as saying they have a limited amount of time to make their money. Well go ahead and once again and throw away a year's pay of your limited window. They'll never make that money back. At a 7% pay cut, it will take 14 years to amount to 100% of their current salary.

October 17, 2012 at 12:24 PM | Registered CommenterHomer